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Working
With Prospective Members |
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STEP ONE - Get the
prospective member to complete the Genealogy Worksheet. |
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Often a prospective member will tell you the name of a
patriot in her family tree. I NEVER assume that the
patriot she knows will be the easiest patriot to prove
in her lineage. In my own case, I had to find FOUR patriots
in my lineage before I found one that I could prove.
Thus, unless a prospective member has a close relative in
the DAR, I ALWAYS require a prospective member to
complete the one-page
Genealogy Worksheet with as much
information as
she knows on her parents, grandparents, and
great-grandparents on BOTH sides of her family. In
addition to giving you the information you need to find the
easiest patriot to prove in her tree, this is also an
excellent way to quickly weed out the truly interested
prospective members from those who actually have no
intention of joining. Be sure to put your contact
information in the "Return To:" box on the
worksheet.
Below
is a sample of an email that I send when contacting
prospective members referred from the Prospective Member
Database (PMD). NOTE: If you prefer to
contact a prospective member by phone, I recommend that you send
the Genealogy Worksheet to her after your phone
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Dear Susan,
I received your inquiry about membership in the DAR. I am
the Registrar of the Ivy Stranahan Chapter in Fort
Lauderdale. I will be helping you with your
application.
Please complete the attached one-page Genealogy Worksheet
with as much information as you know on your parents,
grandparents, and great-grandparents on BOTH sides of your
family. Specifically, I need information on your father's
parents and father's grandparents AND your mother's parents and
mother's grandparents. I need this information in order to
find the easiest and least expensive way for you to join. You can either type the information into the
form and email it to me, OR you can print it out, write in
the information, and mail it to me. My contact information
is on the form. When I receive it, I will let you know
exactly what you need to do to complete your application.
The
Ivy Stranahan Chapter
usually meets the 2nd Saturday of the month from October to
May. I will contact you soon with
information about our next meeting.
Please let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to working with you!
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STEP TWO - Find the easiest patriot to prove in her lineage. |
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When
a prospective member returns the
Genealogy Worksheet,
I quickly get to work to find a provable patriot in her
lineage. You
will find detailed instructions about this portion of the
process in my article
"Debbie's Process for Finding a Patriot
For Prospective Members" under
Articles.
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STEP THREE - Document as much of her lineage as possible
using online resources. |
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Next, I try to document as much of the lineage as I can
using acceptable online resources. In my experience, the quickest way
to lose a prospective member is to present her with a long
list of documents to obtain. |
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STEP FOUR - Email the prospective member detailed
instructions on exactly what documents are needed and how to
obtain them. |
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Once I find a provable patriot for a prospective member, I
send her an email listing EXACTLY what documents she needs to gather/order along with LINKS TO THE FORMS for
ordering the documents.
I try to make the list
AS SHORT
AS POSSIBLE. If her parents and/or grandparents are
deceased, I request death certificates. I usually only
request birth certificates for living people. Birth
certificates are usually not necessary for documenting deceased
individuals because most death certificates list
birth dates, birth places (at least a birth state), and
parents' names.
NOTE: If you want to meet face-to-face with
your prospective member to go over the information, you
should also email the detailed list so she has exactly what
you need in writing.
Below is a sample email for this stage of the process. |
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Dear Susan,
I have great news! Your Revolutionary War
patriot ancestor is Joshua Holloway (1742-1813) Ancestor
#AXXXXXX. DAR application #456789 lists the earliest 3 generations in the lineage. The
lineage goes like this:
Joshua Holloway (patriot)
Joshua Holloway & Elizabeth Adkins
Elijah Holloway & Sallie Fooks Hearne
David Z. Holloway & Louise M. Cretegny
Albert Grover Holloway & Ila Myrtle Newell
Martha Louise Holloway & Floyd Earl Bishop
You will need to
gather/order COPIES (you keep the originals) of the
documents listed below for your application. When ordering
documents, be sure to read the instructions carefully.
1) your birth certificate (must list your parents)
2) your father's birth certificate
3) your mother's birth certificate (must list her parents)
(NOTE: In this case, both parents are living. Otherwise, I
would only request death certificates.)
4) if you can get it easily, your parents' marriage certificate.
If
not, don't worry about it.
5 ) Floyd Bishop - death certificate - He died 12 Jan 2007 in
Broward County, FL.
The form to order death certificates from Florida is here:
http://www.floridahealth.gov/certificates/certificates/_documents/dh727-app-death-fetal-7-2016.pdf
6)
Martha Bishop - death certificate - She died 26 Feb 2009 in
Palm Beach County, FL.
Use the form linked above.
7) Albert Holloway - death certificate. He died 23
Aug 1961 in Muscatine County, IA.
The form for
ordering death certificates from IA is here:
http://idph.iowa.gov/Portals/1/Files/HealthStatistics/death_application.pdf
8) Ila Holloway - death certificate. She died 09 Sep 1982
in Muscatine County, IA.
That should do it! Please let me know if you have any
questions. I look forward to seeing you at the next
meeting.
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STEP
FIVE (ON OCCASION) - Meet with the prospective member to
help her
order her documents.
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For various reasons, some
prospective members drag their feet for months on ordering
their documents. They may lack the necessary computer skills
to accomplish the task, or they may be overwhelmed at the
thought of ordering records from several different states. When I encounter this situation, I
meet in person with the prospective member. I tell her to
bring the following:
1) her
checkbook 2) a book of stamps 3) a dozen envelopes 4) photocopies of her driver's license (enough for the number
of documents to be ordered)
I fill
out the forms for ordering the documents in advance. I have
her sign the forms and write the checks. I help her address
the envelopes. Finally, I make sure her driver's license is
sealed in the envelope with the correct form and the correct
check. |
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Avoiding AIR (Have
Written) Letters |
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Watch the
Webinar "My APP Goes to Washington" |
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The NSDAR webinar "My APP Goes to Washington"
provides an excellent discussion on how to avoid AIR (Have
Written) letters.
Click
here to download a .pdf file of the handout. |
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For
ANY Generation: |
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If
you do not have documentation for a date and place, LEAVE
IT BLANK on the application. If you fill in a
date
and place but do not provide documentation, DAR will assume
that the documentation exists and DAR will request it. |
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For
Generations 1, 2, & 3: |
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Birth
date, birth place, death date, and death place MUST be
documented. If parents or grandparents are still living,
birth certificates are usually required. If parents and
grandparents are deceased, death certificates are usually
required. Do not use the Social Security
Death Index. It does not document birth place or
death place.
If you
are using a previous application (e.g., a
daughter going off her mother's application) and the
previous application did not document birth date, birth
place, death date (if applicable), and death place for each person in the
current applicant's first 3 generations, documentation for
these events must be provided. This applies even if the
previous application is very recent.
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Marriage Records |
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Marriages in the recent generations (i.e.,1, 2,
3, & 4) usually
do NOT have to be proven. (One important
EXCEPTION is when a marriage record is needed to prove a
parent-child relationship.) If marriage records for
Generations 1, 2, 3, and 4 can be easily obtained, INCLUDE them.
If documentation for a marriage is NOT included,
leave the marriage date and place BLANK on the
application. |
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For Generations 4 and Beyond: |
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If death
certificates are available, ALWAYS try to obtain
these documents. (Do not just send a listing from a
vital records index. DAR wants the actual death
certificate.) For Generations 4 and beyond, DAR
requires
at least a birth date AND birth place (at list birth state)
OR a death date AND death/burial place for EACH person in EACH
generation. (Marriage dates and places do NOT count for one
of date and place requirements.) Be aware that many old DAR applications do not
list places. If you are using a previous
application that does not list places, documentation for the
places must be provided. |
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Use of County & Town Histories |
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DAR usually accepts
biographies
from county and town histories when they meet both of the
criteria listed
here. |
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Use of Family Genealogies |
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Generally,
DAR will NOT accept family genealogies UNLESS they are
well-documented and sourced regarding the particular people
in the applicant's lineage.
One exception to this rule would be for "older" family
genealogies written from the mid 1800s to the very early
1900s. In this case, DAR would apply criteria similar to
that discussed in the link above for county and town
histories. Specifically, DAR would want some evidence that
either the author of the book or the likely informant for
the genealogy had personal knowledge of the people in the
lineage. |
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