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This page provides interesting news and articles about genealogy as well as  instructions on how to work with FSSDAR Lineage Research Chairman Debbie Duay on difficult or pended applications. 

Debbie Duay

1641 SW 102nd Terrace

Davie, FL  33324

954-473-2754

debduay@yahoo.com

 

Revolutionary War Pension Claims: 
The Best Resource You Are Not Using

   
 

The 80,000 federal Revolutionary War pension claims filed by soldiers, widows, and surviving children contain a great deal of genealogical information.  These claims are available through Ancestry.com and Footnote.com, and they should be routinely checked whenever anyone is seeking to establish a new patriot or to prove a new child of a patriot. 

What Is In a Revolutionary War Pension Claim?

Original Bible records listing the names and birth dates of all the soldier’s children are often contained in these claims.  However, there are several other types of documents in pension files that can establish parent-child relationships: 

1)  Affidavits by one or more children indicating their status as a son or daughter of the soldier

2)  Affidavits by others listing some, or all, of the soldier’s children

3)  Claims filed by the surviving children of the soldier which often list daughters by their married names

4)  An 1820 estate schedule that lists all the people in the soldier’s household by name and age (in essence this is an 1850 census in 1820).

Three Types of Pension Claims

There are 3 types of claims.  Claims designated with an S (for Survivor) were filed by the soldier.  Claims designated with a W (for Widow) were filed by a widow.  If the soldier filed a claim before his death and his widow filed one later, the soldier’s documents will be combined with the widow’s claim under the W designation.  The S claims and the W claims received pensions from the government.  However, claims designated with an R were rejected.  If surviving children filed a claim, their documents will be combined with the S claim, the W claim, or the R claim, whichever claim pertains to them.

How Do I Know if the Revolutionary War Soldier Had a Pension?

That is the big question, and there is no straightforward answer.  Do not rely solely on the DAR Patriot Index as it often does NOT indicate a pension when one actually does exist.  Of course, one strategy would be to check the pensions on Ancestry.com or Footnote.com for every soldier, but that strategy may not always be practical.  Another strategy would be to check my Bible Records Index.  Although I am listing pensions that identify 3 or more children regardless of whether a Bible record is included, it is going to take some time for me to review 80,000 pensions.

A Little History

It is helpful to know a little about the history of our Revolutionary War pension laws.  For the first time in 1818, soldiers in need of assistance who had served in a Continental military organization (not militia) for 9 months or until the end of the war were eligible for a pension without regard to disabilities.  Prior to 1818, most of the pension acts limited pensions to those disabled during service, and the majority of the early claims were destroyed by fires in 1800 and 1814.  Thus, one might think that a soldier had to live until at least 1818 for a pension claim to exist.  However, if his widow lived a long life, a soldier who died in 1785 could have a pension file with valuable genealogical information.

As a result of the pension act of 1818, the Federal Government was overwhelmed with applications, and many of the approved claims (over 20,000) were for soldiers who were not in financial need.  Thus, in 1820 Congress passed a law that required pensioners to submit a certified schedule of their estate and income.  The genealogical benefit to the 1820 legislation is that pensioners frequently identified all the people living in their household by name and age.

In 1832, Congress opened up pension eligibility to veterans who had served at least 6 months in the militia or state troops.  Over 33,000 soldiers were granted pensions.

In 1836, widows of veterans eligible under the act of 1832 were allowed pensions if they had married the veteran before the expiration of his last period of service.  In 1838, the marriage date was extended to marriages taking place before 1794.  Ten years later the marriage date was extended to marriages before 1800.  Finally, in 1853, Congress removed all restrictions regarding the date of marriage, and widows whose husbands had served at least two weeks were eligible.

Proof of Marriage

The marriage date requirement for widows’ pensions is important for understanding who might have filed a pension and why certain documents were often submitted with a claim.  Widows had to prove their marriage date.  One way to do this was to submit a Bible record that listed the marriage date and/or the birth dates of the children.  Another way was to ask friends, neighbors, or family members to testify that they had first-hand knowledge of the widow’s marriage date and/or birth dates of her children (especially the oldest children). 

From 1838 to 1848, widows had to claim pensions based on marriages that took place before 1794.  Thus, it is common to see widows with multiple marriages claiming pensions for the service of their FIRST husbands even when subsequent husbands also served.  Of course, some widows whose husbands died young never remarried, and they filed pensions some 40-50 years after the soldier’s death.  Thus, many widows’ pensions exist for soldiers who died well before the pension act of 1818. 

   

Debbie's Process for Finding a Patriot
With Limited Information

   
 

In response to a question from a Florida Daughter, I wrote out my specific process for finding a Revolutionary War patriot from the limited information obtained on my Genealogy Worksheet.  Please note that I am happy to look for Revolutionary War patriot ancestors for your prospective members.  Just ask your prospective members to complete as much as they know on the Genealogy Worksheet, and send it to me.  Even if they only know their parents and grandparents, that's okay.  Send them on!

If a prospective member has given me her great-grandparents on the Genealogy Worksheet, I start with them.  I first enter each couple into the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page.  Unlike the DAR Patriot Index which lists patriot ancestors only, the DAR Descendants Database is composed of all of the lineages starting with great-grandparents (Gen 4) through the patriot ancestor.  Please note that you MUST put the husband's name in the top fields and the wife's maiden name where it says spouse when using the DAR Descendants Advanced Search page.  I recommend using the Advanced Search page rather than the Simple Search page (which does not allow you to list a spouse) because a search on a common name like "John Thomas" returns 564 results when a spouse is not listed.  I sometimes try to limit my input to the husband's last name only and the wife's maiden name only (no first names) to limit problems with variations in spelling. 

Occasionally, I get a hit immediately in the DAR Descendants Database because the prospective member's great-grandparents are listed on another DAR application.  More often, I have to do more research so next I go to Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project.  I enter the great-grandparents to see if I can connect to anyone's research that will take me back a few generations.  If I am successful and I connect to someone's research, I come back to the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page and enter the husband and wife in each and every generation in the prospective member's lineage.  It is important to enter the couple in each and every generation because a previous application could be through either the husband or the wife.  If you skip a generation, you might miss a previous application because it went through the wife, and you are following the husband's lineage in Rootsweb - or vice versa.  

If I don't find anything in Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project on any of the great-grandparents, I go to the census on Ancestry.com.  I look for the great-grandparents in their parents' household.  When I find them, I click on the actual census IMAGE.  It is important to view the actual image in order to quickly see if anyone has put a family tree on Ancestry.com that takes the lineage back a few generations.  If someone has created a family tree for the lineage on Ancestry.com, it will appear in the scrollable window to the right of the census image.  You might have to scroll down in the window to view the section "Saved to Public Family Trees."  In the last year, I have found many instances where people have posted lineages on Ancestry.com that do not appear in Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project.  

Once I find the great-great-grandparents (Gen 5), I immediately go back to the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page to see if a previous application lists them.  If not and I do not find a family tree on Ancestry.com, I go back to Rootsweb's Worldconnect Project and enter the great-great-grandparents.  Sometimes I am back far enough with great-great-grandparents to hit another person's research that takes me back several more generations.  If not, it's back to the census on Ancestry.com to get back another generation.

In essence, my process for finding a Revolutionary War patriot is an iterative process between the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search, Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project, and Ancestry.com's censuses and family trees.

   

DAR History

   
 

This has nothing to do with lineage research, but you might want to check out several interesting books and magazines written in the early 1900s concerning the history of DAR.

   

How to Work with Debbie - Pended Applications

   
 

If you would like Debbie to review a new member application that has been "pended" by NSDAR, either email or mail Debbie the following:

1)  copies of page 2 (lineage) and page 3 (documentation) of the pended application

2)  a copy of the letter (called a "Have Written") from NSDAR

3)  any other information that you feel is pertinent to the issue

Please send NEW MEMBER applications ONLY (no supplemental applications).  NOTE:  Send extra copies of all records as documentation will not be returned.

   

How to Work with Debbie - Difficult Lineage Issues

   
 

If you would like Debbie to review a difficult lineage issue for a prospective member or try to find the prospective member another patriot line, either email or mail Debbie the following:

 

1)  a Genealogy Worksheet that lists BOTH sides of the family for the prospective member's parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.  Click here to download the worksheet in MS Word format.  NOTE:  It is not necessary to complete all names, dates, and places on the worksheet.  Just ask the prospective member to complete as much as she knows.  This information will help Debbie find another patriot line for the prospective member, if necessary.

2)  a document, worksheet, or preliminary application that lists the remainder of the lineage in the patriot line

3)  an explanation of the lineage issue

 

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